Romanian and Bulgarian Workers Confused By Home Office Restrictions On Work

Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions. Always ’bout them, all over the world. But dividing foreigners into groups is more than silly.
I am Bulgarian young woman and I am not pretending to speak perfect English but I’d say I’m quite the same as a lot of the women at my age. Even smarter than some.
My point is that making labour market limitations stop not the Bulgarian and Romanian workers in general, they stop only the groups that British people are afraid of being ousted – educated and well qualified ones, the thieves , prostitutes, illegal workers and all different pieces of grey Economics will work anyway.

Kindly regards from snowy Balkans.

PS: I like the home office page but It’d be more clear which is the target group of this web-page.

I`d like to make same comment actually i am also Bulgarian woman residing in the UK under those rediculous restrictions.I think that its actually humiliating to be treated a sa third class European when Polish,Czech,Lituanians and whatever citizens can feel here free to live as normal people as we should be treated.It is rediculous that you`ve given full rights to Polish nation which dont even spent 1 pound in the UK and save all the money they made here to send back home then leave back themselves,while restrict those people who really wants to work and pay taxes and permanently move to live here respecting this country and its laws.I like this country,i like most of the people here,but i dont like to be treated like 3rd class European and you should know that this is wrong!

Yeah, go BULGARIAN girls, show em them Stupid English Restrictions! HOME OFFICE WE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR IDIOTISM, DISCRIMINATION AND NONESENSE! YOU TEACH PPL EQUALTY GIVE ALL PPL THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN SUCCESS, BUT DO YOU PRACTISE WHAT YOU PREACH? DO YOU REALLY?
YOU ARE SO CONTROVERCIAL IN YOUR WAYS OF SORTING THINGS OUT. SO MANY PPL ARE RAPING THIS COUNTRY WITH CLAIMING BENEFITS AND HAVING JOB IN THE SAME TIME. BULGARIAN PPL ARE HONEST AND HARD WORKING, MAKING IT HARD FOR US, YOU MAKE IT HARD FOR YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHEERS

BULGARIA FOR EQUALTY

I am british. I have met a Bulgarian guy who was working here as “self employed” and was being treated worse than a slave because he didn’t know his rights, and was not even aware he was self employed because the hotel organised everything before he came here.
It was only after I met him and asked him about days off (didnt have any),and working hours 24/7, and I informed him of his rights as an employee,that we found out he had no rights becasue he was “self employed”
Obviously it is in the Hotels interests to get people from Bulgaria and Romania to come and work for them so they can abuse them in this way.
We have been living together for one year now and life is still difficult as far as employment is concerned.
He is doing a college course which allows him to work 20 hrs a week legally and after one year of doing this he can work legally as any other.
There are plenty of jobs out there, but as soon as the employers come across this Border agency discrimination against Bulgarian and Romanian nationals they dont want to know.
As a British person I am ashamed of the way Bulgarians and Romanians are treated in this discriminating way. It makes my partner feel very upset and like a second class citizen.
He aims to live here permanently and we hope to get married as soon as we have enough money.
I just wish there was a way this could be dealt with in a court of human rights!

Hello everyone, i am happy to hear a British citizen concerned about our rights and really appreciate.

I am a Romanian business student studying in UK more precisely in Sunderland, North East. To be honest, I feel relative sceptic regarding my opportunities in the UK. I would like to have a job in my area at least temporarily up to one year as I don’t come back in my country only with the degree and with no any experience. However the discriminations are kept even for people who bring money to the UK’s government such as the international students. Beside the work permit, the local employers prefer to wait for a somehow good British application and reject the foreigner ones even if they are better.

I don’t want to have life employement in the UK, appart of that I don’t think to stay there because is better to stay in my poverty with my full rights instead to have a better situation in the UK but regarded as inferior. I really don’t need anything from the UK’s government, but i need to be fair and more supportive with the ones who contribute with fees.

I am sorry for Romanians and Bulgarians and for what other ”inferior” people undergo in the UK. I was naive when i thoght at UK as place for studying. I also really apologise my crime of staying and studying in the UK and contributing to its government and I promise that I will leave once i’ll turn on my plan.

Hello everyone,
I am bulgarian and was working in a hotel in central London as a chambermaid.Mainly workers in the hotel were Polish and almost all of them were housekeeper staff.I was very suprised that these people who had to make even a simple conversation with the guests of the hotel just couldn’t speak proper english and their writing english was even worse.So i want to ask why polish who even can ‘t do their jobs well have rights to work wthout any problems but people like me and other bulgarians can not,no matter that we can speak and write english very well.The other fact is that polish behaved very badly to all other workers from other nationalities.So i think that english employers must have in mind when they hire workers.Workers from Bulgaria and Romania are not worse than these from Poland and probably will do their jobs better if their english is good.Just to hire polish workers who dont’t know even to say their names in english is a shame for the employer.

What a pity! I don’t get the point of EU. So much discrimination! All new members of the EU should be treated the same, no matter the nationality. The new changes in order to meet the EU expectations within Romania and Bulgaria affected these countries in such a way, that the poor people became poorer and a lot of people are still suffering! And the outcome is that they are still treated like a 3rd class citizens. That’s not right! Give full rights or take them all back!
The UK should consider carefully the situation and decide whether they give full rights to all the people or no rights for anybody. That’s a fair way! European Union is not a “union” as long as these issues continue to occur.

I am so disappointed with the Home Office and the “services” that they provide… In fact, they do NOT provide any service and the only put obstacles on your way… For example, when I called the helpline for Bulgarians and Romanians to ask what do I need in order to apply for a Blue card, the first time they told me that I have to send my husband’s passport (he is Italian) to them and an application form EE2 (for permanent residence of EEA citizens). The second time I called them, they told me that I have to apply for BR1 form and if my husband can’t send them his passport because he travels a lot for his work, we have to go to Croydon and apply in person. Again I was told that only his passport is needed. Once we went there, instead, the officer told us that she can’t do anything before my husband applies for a Blue Card (which he is NOT obliged to, according to their website). She also added that the helpline on which I received the information on how to apply for a blue card is not linked directly to their office and there were a lot of people turned down, because of that… At this stage I had already a very lucrative job offer for a Category Manager with one of the leading manufacturers in the FMCG sector in the UK. I explained this to her and asked if there was a possibility to bring the missing documents and the application for my husband the next day or even the same afternoon… She said “NO” with a sadistic smile and told me that I should make another appointment via telephone or online. And you can imagine that I’ve got an appointment in SIX weeks time… So, which normal employer will wait for me that long???? So, what is the solution???? Just surrender and say that they have the right to do it? That they have the right to impose this restriction on Bulgarians and Romanians, who are highly qualified people and who have years of experience? And above all, I don’t fully understand the logic of the whole European Union… This is about EQUAL rights, EQUAL opportunities, and above all FREE MOVEMENT… How some Europeans are FREER in their rights and some others are not? So, it is right to sell their production on Bulgarian or Romanian market, but when it comes to “buy” in a sense the highly qualified labour offered to them, they are not happy to acquire it… I feel discriminated and oppressed by the rasistic division of humans that they imply!!!

nice and true comments!
the only thing i don;t understand is why only romanians and bulgarians are denied?
why us ?
for how long?
they can;t go like this for ever!!!

am Polish, 22, i work with Romanians n i hav 2 say its good they need all these stuff, they r lazy n bring all family 2 England faster than i spend my money, they cannot speak English but they think they r the cleavest people in the world. That 2007 accession was a 1 big misunderstanding!! These country hav no value n their economies r absolutely crap, lol! And if u sayin we r useless its just becoz u r JEALOUS!!! Hahaha!!

Polish and the other ‘non-required the blue card’ people work very good, pay tax, spend money and do their jobs properly even without speakin English. It proves how good we are. So dont try to prove the others that you are better because you are probably not.

That doesn’t really matter who is better, the real fight here is about equality, and yes to blame for romanian and bulgarian restrictions are the polish … even tho they just seized an opportunity if they didn’t migrate in mass the restrictions wouldn’t be imposed, on the other hand the Uk Board Agency should have made some kind of research regarding the migration of all new members of the EU when they opened the work market for all EU members, the fact that only romanians and bulgarians are restricted shows discrimination, like someone said before we are the same as every othe member of the EU, we pay taxes we share rules laws and restrictions.
I am a romanian and i am waiting as everyone else for this ridiculous rule to be lifted.

Hi Everyone,
I am also Romanian,and I faced these problems in Holland,and previous in UK. It is not actually only UK’s government fault,these are restrictions measures which were imposed to Romanian and Bulgarian workers even from the Accession to the European Union. And it is up to each country to apply them or not, and also to drop them anytime during this 7 years period after the accession. They were also imposed to Polish and other 7 nationalities which joined in 2004, but as far as I know, UK did not applied them on Polish workers even since the beginning.
Unfortunately, it can not be done anything against them in any court, because basically, even if its obvious a direct discrimination, our governments agreed with those restrictions in order to join EU.
The latest date until they can be imposed is 31 of December 2013, but only if the other Member States prove that they labour market is in trouble. Otherwise, the restrictions on workers from my country and from Bulgaria, should theoretically end on 31 December 2011…so one more year to go!
Good luck everyone!

First Polish person 22 you really ought to ckeck your writing skills as they are abominable. We Bulgarians have always been talented and hard working. You can claim nothing against that. You are stupid if you still feel superior to us. Perhaps the entering in the EU on these terms was not that good an idea. People believed that EU would fix the order in BG so far the only thing fixed are penalties for executing the right to work. I cannot think of how stupid our leaders are not to have imposed the same restrictions to GB citizens – just to show their resentment not that it would matter. These rules are void and destitute of all reason. Any dicrimination which is deemed to be justifiable is void and null – the fines imposed by it – unlawful and incompetent – the enforcement of penalties – abduction and assault! This, I believe is the whole nation’s attitute. I am a Bulgarian who has been studying law for 2 years now – I can never justify this transition laws. Never. Whoever claims to have done so – even if he is a lawyer could only be seen as a person with less insight in law than a mere student no arguments accepted. The outcome? People working illegally – rarely fined – usually fining of which brings further resentment and I would imagine further breaking of the law – Bulgarians holding a grudge against the Polish for having been the initial reason for such restrictions – Polish striking back with attitude just to get struck back by the Romanians – abnormalities and incompatibilities with basic human rights and human values, depriciation of the value of talented BG and RO workers and mass confussion which has been lasting for years and even outstanding legal people seem not to be able to identify the exact law. This ought to be stopped now – before the difficulties we are facing now become difficulties for the UK government – because Bulgarian people have no long term tolerance for unjustice and an unjust law does not cool out passion for rights – the Ottomans learned that the hard way

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It’s actually quite funny how ignorant some people are: opening borders to foreigners doesn’t have to much to do with “the brand” of foreigners, it’s just a process of accommodating additional residents. No one will allow you sooner, because you think you are a better “breed” of people than us. Since UK policy to open their country without limitations to Poles failed, as it wasn’t properly thought out, some social policy makers decided to go other way this time. It’s their country, so they have a deciding vote, like it or not, yet better learn to live with it, if you want to came over, especially as most of Britons is not able to differentiate between former USSR countries citizens and we will encounter problems for your demanding and argumentative nature.

I’m sorry, but I never met Romanian or Bulgarian people speaking properly in English, I’ve lived in UK since 2005 and I’ve seen on the street begging Romanians, so in Poland, Spain and France, there were woman with little babies sitting on the street and asking about change.

Bułgarzy, Cyganie i reszta, won z łapami od Polaków. Wara wam! Wara!

I have lived in Britain for my entire life and I can tell you that the reason Romanian/Bulgarian people were not granted access to Britain, as the Polish were, is simple: elections. It has nothing to do with who you are, where your from, what you can offer to this country or what benefit you would bring, it’s simply that politicians are paid to be politicians, so they need to be elected to get paid.

This time round immigration was a hot topic for debate. The reason it was a hot topic was because there have been lots of immigrants, not just just Polish (who are a minority group of immigrants) but people from all over the world. Also, there are people out there, who’s votes politicians want, who believe that people get special treatment just for being immigrants. This is a lie, but people believe it all the same, especially when their being told there is an economic problem.

So, as sad as it is, you got f***** over by politicians playing to the ignorant beliefs of ignorant citizens. If your looking for someone to blame for the situation, blame people for being stupid and politicians for pandering to them.

I am Polish, and I think that you beggars and spongers from Romania and Bulgaria should consider yourself lucky that EU is not shooting you on sight. Funny thing:
1. Do you see polish prostitutes on motorways? No, you don’t. You see BULGARIAN.
2. Do you see Polish people begging on the streets? No, you don’t. You see ROMANIAN.
Just a couple of economic indices:

Development Poland is Developed country
Romania is Developing country
Bulgaria is Developing country

Human Development Index Poland 41 position
Romania 50 position
Bulgaria 53 position

Purchase Power Parity Poland 44 position
(Per capita) Romania 70 position
Bulgaria 56 position

Size of black economy Poland 28%
Romania 38%
Bulgaria 38%

GDP per capita Poland 18,837 dollar
Romania 11,837 dollar
Bulgaria 12,888 dollar

GDP spending per education Poland 40 position
Romania 90 position
Bulgaria 95 position

Could come up with many more economic indices but have to go to work.

To sum up, YOU ARE LUCKY THAT YOU WERE ALLOWED TO JOIN. Thank you for your attention.

I agree with latter statement. I use to worked with Romanians in U.S.A. and I have to admit I have never meet more rude people than them.

It’s very funny why people argue here in such rude way. Why we have to generalize how good Polish people are and how bad are Bulgarians and Romanians. Each nationality has good and bad points. I have one question to the Polish one who just tried to impress us how develop is Poland? OK, if your country is so develop why you have to go to the UK, Italy, Spain and lot of other European countries and work the same dirty jobs which Bulgarians and Romanians do? If the lever of your country is so high stay there then and leave the ‘’stupid” Bulgarians and Romanians to do the jobs that the citizens of so called developed countries don’t want to do.

Why should the UK let ppl from Bulgaria & Romania work in our country? IF they cannot work here we cannot work there sounds fair to me.

I think that to form an opinion on people from any country is ridiculous. You cannot generalise Polish Romanian or Bulgarian people living here in the UK, I have great friends from all three!
I am a British Citizen since birth, born in London to a very English family. My fiance is Romanian, we plan to marry next summer but only if he can obtain his blue card / naturalisation as british citizen first.
He has lived here with me for 3 years. Since Sept 2009 he has been a student so as to be permitted to work, has had his Yellow card & NI since Oct 10. Due to the nature of student casual work he has worked over 12 months but not continuously so we expect a delay with gaining a Blue Card.
If things are looked at properly and you are willing to work through the annoying systems that are imposed in every country then no matter where you originate from you can do well.
Look at how hard it is for the British to move to or work in Australia! We can’t get a visa to even travel in the country without proving that we have £5000 in the bank on the day that we get there!
Charles do you know how it’s best to attain the Blue card / whether my fiance will qualify for Naturalisation or must we be married first? Or can anybody else help?

To the Polish biggot.
I am Bulgarian, came to England in 1968, learned English in 7 months and passed the First Certificate of Cambridge at the age of 12. I went to Holland Park School, Airlie Gardens, where most of the children of foreign residents were sent by the London educational authorities. The only group that didn’t speak proper English were the Poles. I am not saying they were stupid, but they were most numerous and went around in groups, speaking only between themselves, completely isolating themselves. For all they cared, they could be living in Timbuktu. As Poland being a developed country it is as much developed as any former COMECON country could be: large inefficient plants producing rubbish. Please tell me about any Polish product being sought after in the world. I am not an expert on prostitutes, but at least Bulgarian prostitutes show hight standards coming to England, because the big cities in Russia, Ukraine,and Belorus are full of Polish prostitutes (highly sought after, I am told). I have lived for 20 years in USA, a country with an enormous Polish presence, yet still a “Polak” is a synonym of a brainless ignorant fool. Please let me know where can I send you the most popular several thousand “Polak” jokes originating from USA, not Bulgaria. Yours faithfully.

I apologize for the word “biggot”. The correct spelling is “bigot”. Must have involuntary hit the key twice.

I am Polish, been living in UK for the last 4 years.

I find the conversations who is better Polish, Romanian or Bulgarians or worst kind of ridiculous.This is UK law, and thats the way it is, so no point to blame each other. We can only hope the law would be equal for all soon.

I have a good friend from Bulgaria, who wants to move to UK, and I am doing research how can I help him with all of those regulations.

Fingers crosses for all Bulgarians and Romanians.

Let me just start by saying hello to everyone: English, Polish, Bulgarian and Romanian. From my perspective every set of people have their good and bad. You cannot judge a nation solely on what impression one or two or three of them has made on you. Thus my point is…try and see the whole picture.
I guess it is now time to state my nationality right?! Well, believe it or not I am Romanian and a proud one at that. I have been studying English for 14 years now, am in the possession of the Cambridge Advanced Certificate and have read most of the English classics. I am very articulate and can cope very well with the English language: written, spoken whatever. Yet despite all these things I cannot come to England and pick some damn apples, work on a farm..whatever. I cannot do the basic of jobs just because I have Romania written on my passport.
I am frustrated with the English laws who can’t quite see farther into this matter. I am not envious of the Polish and do not blame them for coming to the UK for a better life but I will not condone the attitude some of the people showed in their comments. We are not beggars, we are not thieves, we are not Europe’s trash nation. If you do so happen to see Romanian trash, thieves and beggars you can very well expect that to be the exception and not the rule my friends.And if you take a close look at your history my fellow east European friends you will see that Romania has kept your national treasury safe in the second world war. So we’re probably better of having a beer together than arguing.
At the moment I am studying(English of course) in college and when the summer comes I would really like to work abroad(UK) so as to be able to continue my studies. Unfortunately I cannot do that and it pains me.
In the end one thing should be stated. Do not brand people/nations as you see fitting. We are all human. Take care.

Small enough to act big and big enough to do nothing,

FREEDOM .

It is a no point war of rights, where there is a will

: THERE IS A WAY !

Stop the crap and put you’r minds to it whatever IT is !
Kind regards to all hard working people of all nationalities, with or without working rights and for YOU British …… what can I say …. have you got a clue where Romania is? Bulgaria ? Poland ? And if so what do YOU know about us or the rest of the world…. try to Google us….. why should we have equal rights….You do not even know who we are… just think that you do, and its sad ! If things will go the same way as so far you will have a second Jack the Ripper episode on a large scale and the victims will be as follows : YOU , ME AND ALL OF US (LITTLE FISH IN A BIG POND WITH MANY FISHERS ON THE SIDES WITH MANY LORDS OF THE LANDS AND EVERYTHING IN THEM WITH KING AND QUEEN : EGO AND STUPIDITY ) we are all human no matter of our origin and no matter what we do WE are in the same pond until we see we are not FISH and ask for what is ours . Beware fishers , soon u will fall in the ponds and the waters are cold cause you have kept the sun of them for so long….only God knows! Best wishes to all

lets just say that is not nice to have this humble bragging and petting your own shoulder becouse you are polish and your country can show some better statistics than romania and bulgaria.i never seen bad polish people,but that doesnt mean that not exist.please dont judge romanians and bulgarians just to meke you to look good.there is bad stories about polish people as well,but no one seems to care about this.and living in a developed country what you doing here in england?? you just want a better life dont you?so do we the others from developing countries.dont judge us you moron,if you wanna do this do it outside on the street ,and try to state your right as member of developed country if you have enough balls.but you dont have it,thats why you try to put down others thinkin that you are the best.

hi there,everyone!first of all I need to let you know that I’m romanian,coming from Transilvania,which is part of Romania,otherwise my mother tongue is hungarian ,but of course such as many bulgarians and romanians I had enough of this silly,utterly stupid restrictions,when I first came here in London I came to work for a highly prestigious hair salon(that’s what they stated!),so that I gave a trial they let me know “you’re fantastic as a hairstylist,but we cannot employ you however you are romanian and we the salon business do not want to have many problems after you!”Honestly speaking they were like poor romanian,this is your fate go back to your country because you won’t ever have the right to work in the U.K!Embarrisig situation,s later on I forced myself to work as a waitress as just being a self employed,I’ve also called the HM revenue they told me I need to go to some horrible college to have blue card after 1 year,I’m so tired of this and about polish peole and lithuanians they are not better than we are,or not cleverer but if the UK and english people they like themand enjoy them well,they are very wrong,I’m not jealous but some of themdo nt do their proper work!

This has got to do with politics and stuff. It’s not about the actual nationality or at least I hope so and as far as I read the article says so too.

I am Bulgarian, been here for over 4 years now, a law student in Cambridge… if that matters at all… When I first came to England I had to work at a horrible chicken factory for a year in order to obtain a ‘blue card’ – a permanent work permit for any employment.

I used to live in Ipswich at that time, now in Cambridge, and I’ve gotta tell you that I’ve worked with so many Polish people that I don’t wanna see a Polish person ever again in my life.. I know I sound horrible but I really really don’t wanna be but I am being very honest with you..
First of all, 95% of them can’t speak English. The worst thing is that they don’t wanna learn either! They go in groups and communicate only with other Polish people and completely blanking the fact they are freaking not in Poland any more. They act as if everybody owes them something.

Second of all they are extremely racist which, unfortunately, I could say for some Bulgarians (actually most of ppl are) if I am completely honest with you… but I won’t forget this one time I was walking down the street with my black boyfriend when I was given the most ‘poisonous’ looks in my life by my then Polish friend and her husband. Her husband hardly ever spoke to me again and used to call me a whore after that.

But anyway… in short, unfortunately Polish people are extremely ignorant people – loud, arrogant and no class.

Every nation has its pros and cons but nearly every person I talk to says the same thing about them.
I personally hate being classed as ‘Eastern European’ because generally English people could put us in the same box as Poland or Lithuania or them countries up there.

No one is better than the other one but PLEASE at least try and behave yourselves, learn some discipline and learn English too, yeah?

Hey! everyone,

I just want to put a word on here about how the uk is treating Romanian and Bulgarians . I’m British and seeing a Romanian girl who has been here for two years now and all she can get is cleaning or careering jobs as she can not get a job in the profession that she is qualified for. She has a degree and masters as a process engineer, she applied for a job at Veolia doing exactly what she was doing over there and the same position but Veolia knocked her back over here. She as applied for over 1,000 jobs in the engineering and science sector but the same old story she is not qualified for the position but if I went for the same jobs I would get them. I work in the life sciences but with out the qualifications I’ve just work my way up and I bet English company’s would choose me over her as she is Romanian. It makes me sick to think that as an open country someone willing to work as hard as they can don’t have the opportunities as others.

So what can she do work 24/7 for not even minimum wage and be kicked to the dirt.

After dealing with the UK home Border Agency for about a month I got immensely disappointed with England, given the fact that I wanted to live here since I was like 7. I do get the whole economic issue and the concerns English government has on vast amounts of immigration, but simply leaving out Romanians and Bulgarians is a ridiculous discrimination.
I needed the yellow card because of my degree which has a compulsory placement year. After finding a job with a really good company, the yellow card came as an issue, of which I wasn’t aware as I recently changed my passport from Armenian to Bulgarian. What I realized during the process was that no one and I repeat NO ONE has an exact info on how to apply. The web site of the Agency is simply “crap” as everything written there is never confirmed by any individual in the Home Office itself. Moreover recently they have added additional needed documentation, which is a full medical insurance(and the cheapest ones get to around 300 pounds) and all the people who have applied before that law change are affected and their documents get sent back to them without any work permit.
What I would advice people is to push. I called everyday and sent e-mails with scanned copies of all documents every day and they did consider me and granted me a work permit within a month of excruciating waiting, when I was thinking that I am losing both my work and my degree.
All I can say is that England is getting lower and lower, putting obstacles to professionals from other countries might of course save work spaces for English people, but I am really interested how the hell is England seeing any kind of development within the economy when all their staff is homogeneous. As an Economics student I am trying to understand, but as A HUMAN (no matter what nationality or passport I hold) I DO NOT accept this as right. I personally think that England is losing on a lot and at some point all those professional, smart and hard-working people who actually wish to be taxpayers and workers in this country are just going to give up. Finally England would stay only for the English people (as Bulgarians and Romanians are not the only minorities being treated like trash) and I wish GOOD LUCK to them all.

Maybe it is that becouse Polish soldiers fight with Grea Britian against Natzi German, on the other hands Romanian fights WITH Hitler, not AGAINST German. In 1944 when Russian forces came to Romanian they fight with them against German.

So maybe that’s a compensation for selling in Jalta Poland (the ally of Britain since 1939) to 50 years of Communism…

You must learn English *before* coming to the UK, not after. The UK can comfortably sustain a population of 30 million, but we are more than double that now. Know your rights, but don’t expect special treatment. Do expect low paid jobs and a poor standard of living. The streets in the UK are paved with rock not gold.

When Romanians and Bulgarians at WW2 licking azz Uncle Adolf, Poles was fight for free UK

Even Spain close borders for Romanians.

50% of prostitues in Poland are girls from Bulgaria and Romania What did You except ? Special treatents in European Union ? Your country’s are very poor. Be glad that You are part of EU.

60% of the girls in Cyprus and England is a Poland and Russian!

not all Bulgarians and Romanians are bad people. There are people like me and my boyfriend who simply want to ensure a better future both them and their children. If you were in the same situation would you enjoy !!!!!

Hi, excuse my english. I am a young romanian student transfered here at prestigious University. I have been here for only 3 moths but belive I saw more then I imagine. I want to tell you first that the romanians prostitute are clever because they are earning money for their “job” not like english girls who are begging for d….s on the street like the romanians( in fact romans ) beg for money. And all this stupid rules for ciggarets alcohol and drugs, I saw kids ( boys and girls under 18 ) on the street high or drunke. What was again with the law is equal with all nations?I saw old people over 60 living in rented flats and stealing from store to buy alcohol and pay the rent. SOme people working in hospitals and banks are so stupid that dont even know the state members of the EU. I also worked as a bartender in a 4 STARS HOTEL and I saw a beautiful wedding where young drunk mother puting their babies on the chair and dancing on the tables and Old person throwing with object from their tables in the bar stuff all of them english only me romanian. The wedding ended with a fight but not with cake with blood and punches and men beating their wifes and babies. The bride was taken at hospital and the groom at the police station. I am happy to be a romanian and trying to participate at this thing called GLOBALIZATION.

“60% of the girls in Cyprus and England is a Poland and Russian!”
In Your dreams:D

Yes, Romanians and Bulgarians are so cool and smart. Thats why girls this both nations work as prostitutes in Poland.
Better tell me where was Your people when UK fights vs Nazis ?

“60% of the girls in Cyprus and England is a Poland and Russian!”
Couse Bulgarians and Romanians cant come

Dont make me laugh. Just read article in “The times” about prostitutes in UK. First place has prostitutes from Bulgaria and Romania. Polish prostitutes has 7th place.

Hi, I am Romanian and I want to maifest my continuous disapiontment since I am in the UK. I am a student of Majestic College and I really believe that studying a sandwich-course (study&work full time) is the only right way to the poor Romanians and Bulgarians. I have to admit that I have been trying all ways: I have been so enthusiasmatic when my employer applied for my work permit..but the happiness was gone when I have received the depressing answer: that I am not more qualified that a British citizen..
Anyway is so hard to be part of these nations and sometimes reallt disapointing:you need to have steel nerves and to try as hard as you can. I don’t have the Yellow Card in my hands yet, I am waiting for it to come…but I am really sure that yhe day when it’ll come will be a unforgetable day: will be like I DID IT IN THE UK!!
Good luck to all of you who will need the (bloody) work permit…just focus on it and finally will be yours.

Who allow to European politicians to sorting the people on quality,like a manufacturing product.Where is “HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATION” NOW.IF THIS POLITICIANS are so smart and capable,WHY EU start to COLLAPSE so Fast and very soon will finish forever.Fortunately I am Canadian.

Dear Charles, yes a company has applied for me for a working permit and the reason of refusal was that there was no proof of why a UK citizen couldn’t have filled in the position. So after so many disapointments, I really believe that studying is the single right way, especially now when the goverment decide to continue with the restrictions on the labour market for another 2 years up to 2014. I know that they are only allowed to have the restrictions until 1 Janray 2014, my main concern is if they can go further 2014 if they demonstrate (like they did now) that the labour market has serious disturbance.. Charles, legally talking, if the European Parliament from Brussell allowed the work restriction up to 7years, do you think will be any possiblity that these will be continued? If they bring strong evidence,surveys, graphics…

Hello,

I am a Romanian citizen, came to UK in 2009, and now me and my husband are trying to get our rights to work sorted out. My husband has decided to work as a Self-Employed person, as, in Romania, he is an Electrical Engineer. He managed to get some contracts of maintenance and he’s got the NINO, got registered to HMRC, he is paying his NINO, and so on. He has applied at the beginning of November for a Yellow Registration Certificate for Self-Employed, and he had included me in the application as a dependant.

I am wondering if there will be any reason to be refused and not getting the Yellow Registration Certificate?

Thank you for your reply.
Regards

Hello. I’ve been trying to contact the Office in Croydon to book an appointment now and I’ve tried online as well but there are never any empty slots. Do you think I can go to the office and book an appointment there?
Thank you.

Im from Bulgaria same I dislike Polish people.They was in UK and thought,that nobody can follow them.

Now just jealous nothing while drinking. Women command the house men work only. But the new generation, girls and boys are better in any respect.

I forget the UK pay their accommodation,pay for child and they take back, return from Poland ,, all tax,,

They are rich,but empty
… Cant speak English,they,re very funny sometimes

When will be Romanians and Bulgarians allowed to work in the UK without any restrictions?

why you want to work with documents in the uk? nin I was and I said that Romanians and Bulgarians can work without documents ….. need to work a year without documents and give us only required to pay tax nin ……. but I will continue working without documents that do not need any documents. So tell us to work without status and documents ……. and they say we are behind Romanian mentality ….: =))

I can’t believe what I’m reading.
Firstly, what do prostitutes have to do with people who want to work legally?! 95% or even more of the prostitutes are gypsies. GYPSIES ARE NOT ORIGINALLY FROM ROMANIA. A big majority has just stopped there years ago, but they are not ours. Most of them are horrible people, I’ve seen lots of them playing games in Central London and taking money from tourists. But why don’t the police do anything about it?! I’ve seen something like 10 of them just on the bridge at Big Ben on a Saturday. I was ashamed to hear my own language spoken by this kind of people in Central London. But when you think about it… why should I be ashamed?! The whole system is very wrong! There should be a selection of who’s coming in this civilized country, an interview or something like this. I have no rights only because I am a Romanian. Why?! SELECT the people you want in, just how it happens in Australia for example. The situation is so terrible, I hate politics. There is no focusing on the citizens or on the planet itself. There is only focusing on money. So horrible, I am ashamed of the people I am surrounded by. Open your mind before your mouth. The games are played somewhere else, it’s not about how people are, it’s all about gas, petrol or other resources.

1. Regarding Polish people… they tend to be lazy, living on benefits, poor in English, and they do not like studying that much. The truth, yes, because they came in millions in Uk and stopped working and started living on benefits… yes, Uk needed to set a restriction for the new Easter European country that joined in! Home office officially declared that the restriction for the new countries that joined in, is because of the Polish people migration.
2. Romania has the same kind of people too! Romanians, as Polish, they don’t like to work that much and will love to find a way to avoid that. The difference is that Polish live on benefits, Romanian live out of illegal activities. But stealing benefits is still stealing!!! Benefits fraud is a criminal offence, and is more serious then stealing from a shop!
3. Regarding prostitutes… come on people!!! who counted them and who traced their nationality to really know! Mind here that we do have 2 aspects: Moldavian prostitutes (with a fake Romanian passport) and Russian/ Ukrainian prostitutes (with a fake polish passport) At least Romania is Latin… so the Russian, Ukrainian and Moldavian (Moldavia is russified) prostitutes are relatives of Polski (surely they are not latins)
4. People are people, and discrimination is illegal! So lets stop there
5. 80% of the Bill Gates company is Romanian! A Romanian guy hacked into the Pentagon data base (got a job there of course), another ROMANIAN guy hacked into NASA data base (got a job there of course). A Romanian scientist man first discovered insulin (1916 Nicolae Paulescu), Petrache Poenaru invented the fountain pen, Aurel Vlaicu built the first arrow-shaped air plane, Lazăr Edeleanu was the first chemist to synthesize amphetamine… and I could still carry on!
6. I AM CURIOUS WHAT DID POLISH PEOPLE ACCOMPLISH DURING THE TIME?
7. compare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romanian_inventors_and_discoverers to
NON-EXISTENT LIST OF POLISH INVENTORS!
8. Considering point 5,6 and 7 then I will say (and i beg your forgiveness): Polish people should shut up and not dare same one thing, as they are coming from a nation of… mentally simple people!!!! At least Romanian have a list of geniuses which poski lack to have.
9. good day!

refrazing No8. Considering point 5,6 and 7 then I will say (and i beg your forgiveness): Polish people should shut up and not dare saY one thing, as they are coming from a nation of… mentally simple people!!!! At least Romanian have a list of geniuses which Polski lack to have.

rephrasing* ))))

Somebody from Romania stating that Poles are mentally deficient…
It’s like somebody from Monako stating that they are military superior to USA ….

Could not stop laughing guys

I haven’t seen any point in contributing to this rude discussion about which nation is better and why, but I have to admit that after reading a comment with the list of Romanian inventors which I found interesting and educational I thought I’d try to add some polish names here to satisfy Alexandra’s curiosity

The most recognizable and famous would be
- The pope (Jan Pawel II)
- Lech Walesa (awarded Nobel prize)

Some of the great inventors:
- Mikolaj Kopernik (Nicolaus Copernicus) published heliocentric planetary theory

- Marie Curie-Sklodowska

Musicians:
Fryderyk Chpoin, Krzystof Penderecki

Film industry:
Polanski, Wajda, Kieslowski, Zanussi

Poetry:
Wislawa Szymborska (Nobel prize for literature 1996)

And they do not have to hack to any database to became famous